In March 2021, New York media and culture podcast, Savage Mode, invited Turnstone to talk about city streets, a wishlist for designing public health services, post-Brexit nightlife shortages, and the UK tabloids for-and-against relationship with the Royal family. Irreverent in places, provocative in others, and recorded at the end of the second, very long Covid-trounced winter in New York, content is PG-13, mostly safe for work. Opinions are our own.